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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.08 04:14:00 -
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The Apostle wrote:So CCP, please explain... Under griefing rules/policy Quote:At our discretion, players who are found to be consistently maliciously interfering with the game experience for others may receive a warning, temporary suspension or permanent banning of his account. Current "fun" being enjoyed by a limited number of 0.0 alliances on empire players is consistently and maliciously interfering with the game experience for others. Source: http://support.eveonline.com/Pages/KB/Article.aspx?id=336Is the "at our discretion" statement the mitigating factor?
Working as intended.
Just as on the forums, and as it was for BoB before them, the rules do not apply to Goons.
Look around at how often they get moderated here for things such as trolling
as in never
lol tho; good try
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.08 04:17:00 -
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Renan Ruivo wrote:Jovan Geldon wrote:Quote:At our discretion, players who are found to be consistently maliciously interfering with the game experience for others may receive a warning, temporary suspension or permanent banning of his account. Emphasis mine. Economic warfare is still warfare; it's only malicious if you are gaining literally nothing from it. This. Killing ice-miners is being done with an economic agenda in mind (that dude will say otherwise, but he lie) Which is different from killing someone over and over just to annoy that particular person. Ain't nothing but business xD
Theres your camoflage. Its how Hulkageddon wasnt griefing because it was to "control the bot population"
Which was bullshit but still
If you think theres an issue, petition it. then you can ask yourself.
It only took me like an hour or so to get an answer lol
The GMs in this game are amazing at shutting their eyes when they want to
Or pretending they dont know whats going on |
Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.08 04:39:00 -
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Tippia wrote:The Apostle wrote:And for the record, the definition of malicious, consistent and interfering are NOT related to anything economic. No, but GÇ£maliciously interfering with the game experience of othersGÇ¥ is: killing people for gain is not an interference with the game experience GÇö it is the game experience. What that sentence means is that you are not allowed to keep people from playing the game; that you cannot target certain individuals and harass them for the sole purpose of keeping them from logging in.
How precisely would you do that...
Hack their Info, get their address and go break their computer?
Imo this is a side effect of goons helping 0.0 be taken over. Less open territory = less conflict = more boredom.
Id assume there to be more of these type things in the future as they get more and more bored, especially once 0.0 is completely under the massive alliance's thumb. |
Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.08 04:59:00 -
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Imo, there really shouldnt BE a griefing policy in this game as its nearly impossible to enforce |
Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.08 05:02:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Kengutsi Akira wrote:How precisely would you do that...
Hack their Info, get their address and go break their computer? Put them on your notification list, map out their jump clones, and make sure that they cannot leave the stations they're in; barrage them with invites until they block you; ruin their market orders and contracts if they stay in stationGǪ GǪand generally make sure that there is no point in their logging in because they cannot get anything done. At that point, we're talking about griefing. Before that, it's just EVE.
Thank you for proving my point in my last post.
What the hells the point of a griefing rule you cant/DONT WANT TO enforce?
Honestly, get rid of it, its crap. Like the forum role against trolling, "respect each other" or whatever that one is or personal attacks. lol
um... why to you self-censor Goon? |
Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.08 05:35:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Kengutsi Akira wrote:Thank you for proving my point in my last post.
What the hells the point of a griefing rule you cant/DONT WANT TO enforce? Aside from the fact that they can, want, and actually do enforce itGǪ
Really... when?
Ive yet to see that actually happen.
Kinda like how they dont seem to moderate Goons or CSM for that matter. Id join just for that honestly
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.08 15:00:00 -
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no, working as intended
and honestly, can you blame the CSM involved? What would you rather be doing? Beating your head against the brick wall that is CCP and trying to get the game better, or burning it down?
After all. Ppl elected at least mittens "To fix the game or finally break it for good" and thats exactly what he's doing.
how about we fix the excessing ganking on the forums tho?
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.08 15:18:00 -
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theDisto wrote:I would be very excited if all the players in Empire, united and rised up to respond to nullsec players such as the Goons. It won't happen though and sucks to be those who have spammed towers on literally every moon in empire.
Imo it would be funny as hell if the opposite happened, if every 0.0 corp started invading high sec and/or wardecced all the highsec corps.
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.08 21:01:00 -
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Seriously (well yeah nothing here is serious) why DONT you guys start wardeccing their corps? The panic youd create with that, the biggest null sec corp in the game war decs their high sec carebear corp, you wanna keep them outta the belts, theres a way lol
They'll just stop undocking |
Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.10 23:08:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Tippia wrote:baltec1 wrote:I like you're new bloodthursty view of things. New? That rather tells me that this topic doesn't come up as often as people seem to think, so I haven't had the opportunity to express it as often as needed, because I've had that view for years nowGǪ  I've been in this game for four years. I've been the target for ganks a total of four times (and one didn't really count as GÇ£mineGÇ¥ because it was a smartbomb attack against the Perimeter gate), all of which were trivially easy to avoid and all of which failed. This is far too few and an utterly appalling score card. I still remember back when it felt slightly scary to go to Jita 4-4 GÇö I want that feeling back.  I must admit that it has been far too long since the last jita blockade
Think Goons could hold a Jita blockade AND keep up the Gallente ice interdiction? Or did they give that up already?
Tippia wrote:Calgrissom Torvec wrote:No the non payout for insurance to people concorded should give them less insentive to gank. GǪand why on earth would you give less incentives to ganks when, if anything, there needs to be more of them?
Yeah... but really they need to remove the insurance payout. Call it an "underworld gift" instead. Insurance has a funny way of looking at someone driving the insured vehicle to a location, blowing it up for the purpose of killing all those in reach.
Especially the third or fourth time.
edit: since not sinse blockade not blocade (sorry OCD) |
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.11 00:42:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:insurance also looks at you funny when you ask to insure something for use in combat
also true. remove insurance for all combat ships, only give it to miners and industrialists. Sound good to me
Funny a Goon would support something like that though |
Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.11 02:01:00 -
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Lord Ryan wrote:Jovan Geldon wrote:Quote:At our discretion, players who are found to be consistently maliciously interfering with the game experience for others may receive a warning, temporary suspension or permanent banning of his account. Emphasis mine. Economic warfare is still warfare; it's only malicious if you are gaining literally nothing from it. You mean like Faction Warfare? I thought it was an intended game feature.
Intended game features become bugs when inconvenient. EVEN to CCP.
see the "bug" where you continued training skills after your account went unpaid.
This guy's sig makes me wanna find someone with Tron tattoos all over their body... I think thats just the Lortabs mixed Autism talking tho
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